.308 Winchester Overview. 1; 2; Next. The longer you shoot, and the harder the rifle kicks, the more likely you are to flinch. J. jesselnick OP. 7mm-08 vs. .308 – Recoil. jesselnick. nice. I shot my buddy's Sako TRG .308 this past fall. If I was just game hunting though I would get the 270 for … Something important to know when comparing the .270 vs .308 is that the .308 has seen a lot of military service, while the .270 is primarily a hunting round. Posts: 248. In conclusion, we are sure that the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester debate is not going to go away any time soon. I switched to .270 win about 35 years ago, and have never regretted it. Save Share. However, time saw both these long-standing cartridges in the same arena and with a huge respective loyal user base. Increase the gun weight by, say, 25% and the recoil goes down by 25%. But between the .270 Winchester and the .280 Remington, which offers the best performance for the hunter? I have two favorite rifles, a .308 and .270. I decided to look at ballistics comparing the 308, 270 and 6.5 creedmoor. The .270 is prone to having a much sharper kick than the .308. 30-06 vs .308 vs .270. I compared a 150-grain in the 308 Winchester against the 140-grain Core-Lokts in the 7mm-08 and 260 for two reasons. Recoil is also important because it determines, for how, how easy your rifle will be to shoot. Reply. I estimate that fifteen foot pounds of free recoil energy and 10 fps of recoil velocity represent the approximate upper limit of the comfort level. The chart you posted has the .270 with a recoil factor of 162.6 The .308 with a recoil factor of 35.2 And the 30-06 with a recoil factor of 60.1 So, if the chart is correct, the .270 would have significantly more recoil. Austin tx. Sewerman, Sep 19, 2005 #2. Granted, recoil energy is highly relative; recoil force depends on grain weight and muzzle velocity as well as the weight of the rifle. Our calibers from .257-inch up to .338-inch have served us well for decades, but the .277-inch, 7mm, and .308-inch calibers have gotten the lion’s share of work from deer hunters. One has its origins in the military while the other was manufactured for hunting. While this might not actually be deserved, it is not nearly as common to run across a .308 in the field. New member, first post, so be gentle! Must see data comparison! However, the .308 180 grain is a heavy bullet with a high muzzle velocity so you will feel it as well. Father Knows Best Member. I don't want a magnum calibre, and have narrowed it down to the above options. Please share it with your friends on Facebook and Twitter. While a gun and the ammunition may be capable of sub-MOA accuracy, real-life hunting is not like shooting on a shooting stand. I … When going after bigger game with shots within 250 yards, the .308 is a fantastic choice. This round is a great combination between a flat trajectory and moderate recoil. The .308 Winchester barrel has a longer lifespan. Also, the effects of recoil are cumulative. We might not be able to say which one is better, but we certainly learned a lot while trying to find out. I think this is where we begin to make our biggest distinctions between the rounds. For one all rounder the 308 is better in Australia, there is a broader range of ammo available, the short action is a little lighter and quicker to operate, and it kicks a little less if you are taking multiple shots culling or in a comp. Do not forget that rifle weight is a crucial factor in the recoil equation, inversely proportional to recoil. The average 12 ga Foster slug packs a lot more punch on the shooter's end than almost any .308 load I've shot, to include 190 SMKs. Make 260 Remington vs. 308 Test Fair. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. The gun will be a ruger American which is about 6.5 lbs not scoped. The historical popularity of the .308 Winchester cartridge doesn’t mean it is free from problems. At first I was pretty set on getting a 308 win because the round seems so common, easy to find and lower recoil, but after reading some articles and watching some videos it seems the 308 might not be the best choice. I'm looking for a bolt-action, all-around calibre, for target practice, and maybe eventually hunting. They are hunting rifles of course. 270 vs 308 Recoil. The chart you posted has the .270 with a recoil factor of 162.6 The .308 with a recoil factor of 35.2 And the 30-06 with a recoil factor of 60.1 So, if the chart is correct, the .270 would have significantly more recoil. Thanks for your time. Most people attest that .270 vs .30-06 favors the lighter round. Nosler provided the data used to compare the recoil of the cartridges (here and here). Joined: Feb 2013. Both BDL's. Posted by u/[deleted] 3 years ago. .270 Winchester VS .308 Winchester. I have taken mule deer, elk, black bear, hog and antelope with mine and wouldn't give it up for anything. By the numbers, according to the Chuck Hawks recoil table, an 8-lb. Recoil from a lighter .308 rifle will be a lot snappier than your slug gun, but not enough to make up for the difference in ft/lbs of recoil. .270 Vs. .308. Jul 7, 2010 #1 RemingtonShooter Well-Known Member . 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Recoil. Recoil energy for 308 in an 8 pound rifle is 16-17lbs depending on load. Feb 23, 2018 #4 thinhorn_AK Senior Member. We hope that both new and old shooters found our article useful. in this non-biased .308 Vs 30-06 review, you will come to know the differences of these 2 popular cartridges regarding size, ballistic, recoil, flexibility 1; 2 ... You can generally have a nice muzzle brake put on a rifle for about $150, and this should put the recoil to about .308 or maybe less. There's been thousands of articles over the past 90 years or soon comparing the .270 and .30-06 so it's a too belabored topic. A Good Problem to Have - .308 vs. .270 WSM. Above that recoil becomes increasingly intrusive. In 1952, Winchester commercially released the .308 round along with chambering its Model 70 and Model 88 rifles for the cartridge. Recoil energy for 270 WSM in an 8 pound rifle is 19 lbs, much less load variability. However, the boosted speed and energy requires more powder and longer action, resulting in a heavyweight gun and higher recoil. I'm sure this discussion has been had many times, but I would appreciate your thoughts! rifle in .270 generates 16.5 ft-lbs of recoil with a 130-grain load at 3,140 fps. Thread starter Boomhower; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Boomhower Shoot, man, it's that dang ol' internet. All were Remington Core-Lokt, an extremely popular bullet in the deer woods. I've always had a soft spot for the 270, kills well and doesn't recoil much, but once I sort of looked the chronograph data I've collected on both the 270 and the 7mm-08 over the past few years, something became clear to me: the 7-08 basically equals the 270 in velocity and energy if you are using the typical 22" 270 factory barrel. Now here’s where things get complicated: oftentimes recoil is not so much determined by the caliber itself as it … My shoulder just isn't nearly calibrated enough to sense a 5 ft/lb of recoil difference without shooting one and then the other first. In the real world, firearms chambered for less powerful cartridges are typically built lighter than firearms chambered for more powerful cartridges. MEL . It uses bullets from 100 to 150 grains, which can easily reach 2,900 and even 3000 frames per second. This sounds like a good approach to me, and Tikka makes a very nice rifle. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. recoil from a .308 isnt that bad, i have a saiga in 7.62x39mm and anFal in .308 and the saiga definitly kicks harder. There is a big difference in muzzle blast from a 20 inch to a 24 inch .270 Win, and that contributes to perceived recoil. Therefore, I see no reason to shoot 150 grain bullets in the .270, unless you do not own a 30-06 or are just plain stubborn. I have recently gotten the bug for long range shooting. And its recoil is more manageable than that of the .30-06. Austin tx. Now if someone says that we should compare the recoil of both with 150 grain bullets, I say; the reputation of the .270 was made on shooting 130 grain bullets. Mar 14, 2011 #1 I will first tell of my desires and inventory, then go on to my question. Next Last. Graphs and visuals can be filtered and changed by you. Plain and simple, if you don’t enjoy your rifle, then you won’t shoot it! Let’s take a look at what makes them tick. Woodsman. No way could I just sit down with my .308 and shoot a 130 TTSX at 3000 fps or a 180 at 2600 and tell you which one I just fired. 1 of 2 Go to page. To tell the truth, the 6 lb ( unloaded ) Steyr seems to have less recoil than some heavy .308s I own. I like the .270 for its flat shooting and hard hittting abilties over long range. If it were me I’d keep the 270 and focus on putting an animal or three on the ground with it. It produces a fair amount of recoil -- enough … Around here, the .270 has a much better reputation for being a good all around choice ie; antelope, deer, bear, sheep and elk, than the .308. Let's compare two top quality deer hunting loads. 30-06 vs .308 vs .270. Enjoy this article about the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester debate? Reactions: Goatie. But it is louder. When choosing a rifle and trying to decide between these two chamberings, your purpose will be one thing that determines what you may want to choose. 25-06 vs 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Winchester: The Results Might Surprise You. Joined Jul 7, 2010 Messages 158. A .308 with a 150 grain bullet compared to a .270 with a 130 grain bullet, the .308 will likely have more recoil. Close. In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look two cartridges, the 7mm-08 Rem and the .270 Win. Ballistics, velocity, trajectory, and energy data analysis. I would suggest reconsidering the need for long-range hunting (above 400 m / 450 yards). The .308 Winchester cartridge can be loaded to produce ballistics that equal or even exceed the .30-06 Springfield cartridge despite its smaller case. 16. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 21 Posts. Archived. None. Two of the most well-known cartridges go head-to-head in this detailed article. 270 vs 30-06 Caliber comparison. Having said that, I've fired all of those and can hardly tell the difference. Go. Both winchester using powermax bonded bullets, 130 grain for the 270 WSM and 150 for the 308. the 270 WSM starts out at 3000 fps while the 308 is barely above 2500. Woodsman. So test the rifle, if its too much recoil, have a muzzle brake put on it. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to … J. Joined: Apr 14, 2005 Messages: 2,503 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA. the .270 is just a 30-06 necked down to accept the .270 bullet. The bullets I compared in this video were not identical, but as close as I could come. OP. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 Winchester vs .30-30 Winchester ammo rounds. Well, a typical .308 Winchester load is a 150-180 grain bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2600-2800 fps. If you are considering moving away from the 270 for recoil reasons, it’s important to realize that a 308 kicks about the same, and that by going to a lighter rifle you will undoubtedly feel more recoil. This is a common question many hunters have, especially when considering a hunting rifle for younger hunters. It has a more stout recoil than the .308, but not so much as to be unpleasant. The 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. I have both, a heavy custom Mauser and a lithe little Steyr Model M Luxus Stutzen. Both of these cartridges became popular in the shooting world because of their ballistic characteristics, especially the trajectory, and the low recoil while still can bring down medium and even larger sized game. .270 WSM vs .308 or .300WMS. 308 vs 270 recoil on a ruger American #4306468 06/07/13 05:08 AM: Joined: Feb 2013. Thread starter RemingtonShooter; Start date Jul 7, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . 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